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ANNIE SPRINKLE
via email some days before her performance in Oslo, oct 2002.
Babes in Boyland : Can you introduce us to Post-Porn Modernism
? and Sex-Positivism ?
Annie Sprinkle : Post Porn Modernism is a term that a dutch
artist made up, to discribe sexually explicit media, that isn't
necessarily erotic. It can be humorous, political, feminist, artistic,
experimental, weird, etc. I addopted the term and it was the title
of my first one woman show, which i toured for four years around
the world. Sex positive simply means that you basically feel sexuality
is healthy, fun, beautiful, etc. as opposed to sinful, dirty, evil,
etc.
BIB : Would you compare your celebration of the body with
pagan philosophy ?
Annie : In what way do you think it's empowering for women
?I have learned a lot from pagan philosophy, iwhihc is basically
sex and body positive. I get a lot of very positive feedback from
women that my work helped to liberate them, educate them,made them
feel better about their genitals, gave them the courage to be the
sexual beings that they are. It gives them a role model of what
a sexually experienced and knowledgeable woman can be. Because I
had sex with thousands of people and came out of it all a winner,
not a mess, as we're brought up to believe will happen if we are
sexually permisquous.
BIB : How and when did you come up with your idea of
demystification of thefemale body'? I personally understand its
artistic value as a contemporaryversion the painting 'The Origin
of the World'. Would you say your are pushing the boundaries of
gender, as a female artist using your body ?
Annie : I never used the term "demystification".
I wanted to share a great mystery with the world. You can never
demystify a cervix really. It's like a magical universe. Always
will be a mystery. But I also wanted to teach people about it, and
it's basically really fun to show it and to look at it. The art
critics gave my "Public Cervix Announcement" lots of meanings.
The overall good effect it had was to relieve women from shame of
their genitals. If I could show the inside of my pussy to thousands
of people, maybe they could let their lovers look at their pussies,
or maybe they could take a mirror and speculum and look at their
own, and learn to love it.
BIB : Do you feel like the artistic community around
you treats men and womenequally ? Do you feel like you are challenging
gender oppression in yourwork? Do you feel the need to do so ?
Annie : There is certainly male priviledge in the art world.
However the most powerful and well known performance artists are
all women. It's a good time to be a woman artist. Yes, I do think
my work challanges gender oppression, but it also challanges peoples
predjudices and judgements about whores, and sexually free women--'hophobia.
BIB : I understand your art as Nina Hagen's performing
masturbation on German TV to show girls how to touch themselves.
The shock tactic is similar,in my opinion, only less violent, maybe.
Don't you feel like some people in the audience take it as mere
provocation, though ?
Annie : I'm a lover not a fighter. And my work has a lot
of heart and a lot of humor. I'm very gentle, somehow. But sometimes
people are a bit shocked. But they are usually surprised that they
aren't so shocked by what normally might shock them. My show, Annie
Sprinkle's HErstory of Porn, which I'm doing in Oslo and Bergen,
is very feminist. It is shocking if you haven't seen much porn.
But by the end, you've learned a lot. You don't have to like porn
to love this show. Mainly it's good theater. It shows many different
kinds of porn, but it's not meant to be titilating. It's meant to
make you think and feel, and ponder your own sexual evolution. Many
people relate their own sexual lives with my story. Particularly
women. It's a women's show, for sure. Please please come see it,
because it's the only chance you'll have in Norway. It's a one shot
deal. I'm retiring this show. Which by the way, I've taken to many
countries over the past four years. It's my first time performing
in Norway. And from what I hear, these issues about sex and art
are very timely there.
BIB : Are your performances always understood as being
an educational experience? Annie : What would you tell people who'd
say it's a vulgar freak show ?
Annie : Yes, it is educational. People think if they've seen
one porn film, they've seen them all. But I show many different
genres of porn. This show utilizes clips from films I made over
about 25 years. It's an education about film. And personal evolution.
By the way, I have several books out. Check them out at my web site
at anniesprinkle.org.
BIB : Can you explain your position on feminism and pronography
?
Annie : If you find that porn degrades women, and you hate
it, and you don't think it's erotic, rather than supressing it,
get out there and make some that you find that you like, that empowers
women. I am a feminist. I am also a PhD sexologist. Sometimes our
desires are not always politically correct. And sexuality is a complex
issue. In order for us to grow, to become more sexually satisfied
and aware, then we need to look at sex under the michroscope, examine
it, and we can learn and grow from that. It's been secret, porn
has been for men only until recently. It's been hidden from women.
Porn is a reflection of who we are and what we do sexually. It can
be changed, and made better. Our sexuality is a treasure trove of
gifts, of possibilities. Sexuality is a way to become more healthy,
happy, powerful, satisfied in life. It's a way to give and recieve
love, and get the touch and affection that we all so need. A sexually
satisfied woman is a happy woman. And we can all learn how to be
better lovers, no matter how great we are. Making and looking at
pornography can be a way of learning, teaching, and growing. However,
yes, we need to speak up about what we don't like in porn too. Its
a mysogynist world, and that's going to be reflected in porn as
well. There's a lot of porn I really don't like at all. But people
need to have the freedom to explore sex in the media, because sexuality
something that is important to everyone,. in one way or another.
So I hope people in Norway will come to my show. I think they will
enjoy it, and then perhaps there can be more artists that explore
sex coming your way. Think about how people viewed sexuality 100
years ago, and how far we have come from that. Think about how far
we can go in another 100 years. The potential for change and improvement
is enormous! Ultimately it's about LOVE, that we love ourselves
and each other more.
© Babes in Boyland 2002.
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