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Lesbians on Ecstasy Wuc, Vienna, Oct. 20th 2007 The LoE interview you are about to read was made by Marty and Sushi from Bauch, Bein, Po, Die Sendung für die ganze Frau (Radio Orange, Vienna. http://o94.at/programs/bauch_bein_po/) and OvaryAction (radiOrakel, Oslo www.radiorakel.no). We met the 2 LoE we were interviewing: Brady Bankrupt (laptop-keyboard-electronic set-up) and Pretty Ricky (drums) in the café next to the venue they were going to play some hours later, along with Jean Genet and TNT Jackson. Queer fm were behind the organization of the event and little did they know then how very popular it was going to be: the place was simply packed and the gigs were really good, as well as the high class DJ (this post punk set before the LoE got on stage was magic!!). But that's another story. First the private-intimate girls talk....turning public before your very eyes. Thanks to the Bauch, Bein, Po ladyzz for letting us join the discussion... and being so inspiringly clever with interviews!!!
BBP : We've been listening to some of your older music and were wondering what other principles than the one are the LoE following and promoting... BB: (after a short silence) Waow, that's a more elaborate question than we're used to..
OA: Well, obviously you have not talked openly about this before so maybe... PR: yeah, only in secret...BB: Individually we hope to get laid all the time on tour, but then in reality it never happens.' Probably connected to the fact that we are sleeping in the same room. It could make things a bit awkward. PR : It's like having a gay mafia following you close behind. We're into drinking in the daytime, that s a big pleasure principle. BB: yeah, 'cause you know, in North America, you're not allowed to drink in the car, so here... we just love to drink in the van... because it's legal and it's fantastic! PR: yeah! and I think also as the pleasure principle go: meeting all the people who come to see us, you know and people who come to talk to us not just at the merchandise table...seeing other people who are in a non-commodified lesbian world, who want to hang out and talk, and have a good time. I'm really into the party right now. Not just party like getting wasted or whatever but I'm having a great time... I've toured a lot and this is my first time touring with these guys (she also drums for Hidden Cameras) and everyday I've woken up I'm like "I'm happy", it's so nice! For me it's just about being sane on tour, that's kind of what I'm following right now: being happy, not cutting a part of myself off, and being really into the job of touring. Like it's not just like sitting in a van and ...(she makes the sound of boredom, frustration and disgust contained all in one) BB: and watching Heroes on dvd. PR: (very enthusiastic) YEAH! This is the other pleasure principle we're following: watching Heroes BB: TV on DVD: Do you guys watch TV on DVD? It's so bad... PR: It's like watching stupid television, but without the commercials. wasting time, really.... But we're also writing a rock opera right now... We're performing a rock opera in one week in Toronto. We performed it twice, in different kinds of incarnations, but we have to rewrite it... in a week.
OA : Because it was not good, or you were told it wasn't? BB: "knit neon ponchos!"PR: "we need frange!" We're such in a funny timework right now because we are on the road, so we wrote to one of our costume guys and he wrote back saying: "you're playing in a week, you know! It's not enough time for me, you guys are going crazy! So yes, we're just conceptualizing for the rock opera, so we see how it works.... A little bit of pleasure, a little bit of ....work BB: and eating and drinking in between PR: yes, and we're all growing what we call a baby...which is our fat. Everyone has their own little personal baby on board... baby on Board! That passes the time, you know: what's grown overnight, because of beer seeds... Is that ok or that too (she whispers) shallow? Laughters.
BBP: I also find it interesting that you're shifting between utopian and dystopian views. How did you come up with these "30 years" or "women loving women" songs that have this kind o lesbian feminist utopia in their lines? How did you come to this point? BB: You see, I don't know how people interpret those things, it's hard for me to say, but for me a lot of the songs on the new album, like "Camp Fire" or "women loving Women", it's a combination of dystopia and... but also of nostalgia. All of the lesbians seen then, from an outsider's point of view, someone who wasn't there, that people seemed to be very hopeful for the future. When you listen back to those songs, it seems so naive and impossible. Yet then, if you're someone who has a little bit of hope that things can change in the world.... When I listen to them, it makes me kind of sad, like I wish I could carry the same kind of idealism, these kind of naive hopes, but I can't, it's not realistic anymore. See what happened to those scenes: they all crumble and fell apart. For me, it's the only way to engage, like I couldn't write this kind of songs myself today, it wouldn't make any sense, it would be ridiculous. But to play with songs that were already written in the past, it allows you to play with those kind of feelings, you know: despair, and hopefulness together. To find a way that would be political and yet realistic. To me, that's what is interesting about looking back.
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